Older records

PP: It's getting harder to find your older records.

DF: They're outta print. Lookout is slowly but surely going to reissue the "pre lookout" records. There's the first one which we put out ourselves and then the two on Rough Trade. Lookout's gonna give it the whole bonus track and raritites deal. Hopefully that's all gonna happen by December.

PP: Have you been finding more people turning on to your new records?

DF: Well, generally, yeah. I don't know if the records are the cause of it or if it's just that we've been around so long. Eventually, if you keep at it long enough you gradually acquire enough weirdos who like it and buy a few records. I think the "Our Bodies, Our Selves" record alienated people because it had some sorta different stuff on it, which I'm glad it did. But it wasn't what everybody expected when they put it on. I know the "Professional Punk" people like MRR, were scandilized by it. They thought it was beneath contempt apparently. Actually, ordinary people like you and I, who go to shows because we like the music, not because we feel we have to, they were into it. Some people say it's their favorite record, it's weird. A lot of people that liked that record like the new one. It's just weird because it's a CD-5 format and I don't think it gets out as much. The general reaction to the new one, the EP, seems to be good. Everybody likes it, uhh, except again for MRR (laughs). I don't know what's up with those people. It's not just a reaction to unfavorable reviews, though that's of course the way it's gonna seem. I hesitate to say anything about it but they seem to have just gotten crazy in the last year. It used to be that it was just a lot easier to be in their club. Membership requirements have gotten more and more restrictive. The whole thing of banning bands and kicking bands out of there is weird. The comparison that used to be made all the time in the last couple of years was that Tim has turned into this Joseph Stalin. To me, it actually seems like he just skipped Joseph Stalin and went straight to Ming the Mercifuless (laughs). It's a strange thing, I mean pretty soon they're just gonna ban everybody and then it will just be all ads.

PP: What in specific, do you think it was that put them off?

DF: Well, there's some acoustic stuff there and the cliche with that is that when a band starts doing stuff like that they're lame or soft or whatever. I think that kinda bothered people. I don't mind bothering them though, bothering them is cool but the thing is that the acoustic songs on there aren't like sappy bubblegum ballads. Not that I have anything at all against that but that's not what they were. If anything, the softer sounding songs were more lyrically messed up than others. It's just the "spokespeople" punk people didn't get it.

PP: I'm finding that a lot of old Green Day fans who are too embarressed to admit it are turning to you guys as a safe alternative. Do you ever see yourself in that situation at some time?

DF: It's a different kind of thing in someways but I think Green Day is a great band. I think when people complain about them it's one of two things. One, it's people who were in that original scene or bands from that period and it's just like sour grapes, jealousy. Also, it's the new people who've been influenced by the first group of people, and just say "ooh, sellouts" because it's cool and they don't know any better. That record's great, I don't think anyone can say it's not but even if you have the mindset that they're sellouts, well Mr. T Experience is certainly not in that category. We're just a dumb little band that does dumb little songs.

PP: The new EP is done in pretty much the same style as your last record. Is it safe to say you are sticking to a certain overall feel?

DF: Yeah, I just make up the songs and get everyone together and we play 'em. That's just what it is and that's how it comes out. You learn things every time you do it. Some people disagree but I think everyone gets a little bit better cause you learn a bit more. Listening to the old records is like looking back at snapshots of your old vacations you're like "Oh, remember when we did that? That was cool." or "Boy, that didn't really work out, nice memory even though I don't wanna listen to it." I think a lot of bands' records are like that except ours are even more so.